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The Attacks Took Place In A City With Strict Firearms Prohibitions

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发表于 2015-11-14 00:04:31 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
What Are France's Gun Laws Like? The Attacks Took Place In A City With Strict Firearms Prohibitions

ALICIA LU

Paris is currently experiencing one of the worst terrorist attacks in modern history. Multiple shootings and explosions have left at least 60 people dead, according to some reports. It comes less than a year after the terrorist attack on French satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo that left 12 dead. As the situation continues to unfold and officials determine the identities and motives of the attackers, it's worthwhile to examine France's gun control. If we've learned anything from Charlie Hebdo, it's that even though France's gun laws are strict, they wouldn't have stopped the latest Paris attacks.

According to the University of Sydney's website gunpolicy.org, gun control in France is categorized as "restrictive." Keep in mind that, unlike in the U.S., France does not have a "right to bear arms" — the right to privately own a gun is not protected by law. In order to purchase a firearm, one must first obtain a hunting or shooting sporting license that requires a psychological evaluation and regular renewal. Semi-automatic rifles that can hold more than three rounds, as well as rifles and handguns with military-grade calibers also require permits. Fully automatic weapons are completely illegal for civilians. If one purchases or possesses a gun illegally, the punishment is a maximum of seven years in prison, plus a fine.

So does that mean the attackers who carried out the Friday the 13th attack obtained such licenses? The answer is almost certainly no.

Several reports have claimed that the attackers were using Kalashnikov rifles, which are the same kind of automatic weapon that the shooters in the Charlie Hebdo attack used. Experts have theorized that the Charlie Hebdo attackers obtained their Kalashnikovs illegally through the arms black market and that the weapons had been smuggled in from manufacturers in Eastern Europe. A Washington Post article from last January estimates that the number of illegal guns in France is now at least twice the number of legal guns.

So, more likely than not, the attackers in Friday's attack obtained their weapons in a similar manner. Therefore, the restrictiveness of a country's gun laws is a moot point when criminals and terrorists act outside of the legal boundaries, which can be said for not only the attackers but to everyone involved in the illegal arms trade and manufacturing.

After the Charlie Hebdo attack, many — particularly conservatives — questioned whether less restrictive gun laws would have allowed for an armed civilian intervention. While it's certainly possible, there are no guarantees, and it's not likely a civilian with a handgun could overtake several gunmen with AK-47 assault rifles. The real issue, it seems, lies in cracking down on illegal gun trafficking, not gun laws for private owners.

发表于 2015-11-14 14:05:54 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 kaleege 于 2015-11-14 14:08 编辑

昨天听到这个事情,第一反应就是几个预测:反穆斯林的要high了,反移民的要high了,反禁枪的要high了。
实在是太predictable。

禁抢的法国发生枪击案说明要持枪,全球拥枪第一高的美国天天都有枪击案还是说明要持枪,禁抢的中国发生不带枪的持刀砍人案还是说明要持枪。持枪派真是从胜利走向胜利再走向胜利。
 楼主| 发表于 2015-11-15 08:16:49 | 显示全部楼层
kaleege 发表于 2015-11-14 14:05
昨天听到这个事情,第一反应就是几个预测:反穆斯林的要high了,反移民的要high了,反禁枪的要high了。
实 ...

这句话放在这:只有全民皆兵才能对付恐怖主义。

你自己想想吧。靠政府?梦游去吧。
发表于 2015-11-15 12:21:13 | 显示全部楼层
万得福 发表于 2015-11-15 08:16
这句话放在这:只有全民皆兵才能对付恐怖主义。

你自己想想吧。靠政府?梦游去吧。 ...

“想想”?你不觉得你嘴里说出“想想”这个字很讽刺吗?自己有没有“想想”过自己的主张:1、是否有证据支撑?2、是否逻辑自洽?这两点都做不到的人,从来大嘴一张不动脑子的人,居然叫别人“想想”。
 楼主| 发表于 2015-11-16 11:35:44 | 显示全部楼层
kaleege 发表于 2015-11-15 12:21
“想想”?你不觉得你嘴里说出“想想”这个字很讽刺吗?自己有没有“想想”过自己的主张:1、是否有证据 ...

我对天朝背景的禁枪派感到深深地悲哀。天朝的洗脑本事真的不是盖的--- 洗到一个程度就是只要持枪就是犯罪。

这些人不仅自己的脑袋被洗成了浆糊,还要自备口粮帮着强盗去做帮凶害守法的良民,他们不光是害良民,而且是帮着强盗去害自己的帮凶。

这位一脑子浆糊的同学,请你去和巴黎恐袭恐怖分子讲逻辑自洽好吗?

我祝你早日和恐怖分子面对面讲逻辑。呵呵。
发表于 2015-11-16 12:13:45 | 显示全部楼层
万得福 发表于 2015-11-16 11:35
我对天朝背景的禁枪派感到深深地悲哀。天朝的洗脑本事真的不是盖的--- 洗到一个程度就是只要持枪就是犯罪 ...

天天杀老鼠刷试管的垃圾专业也好意思说自己讲逻辑?垃圾生物专业的索南特色:

http://d2bay.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=11362

http://d2bay.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=11363

http://d2bay.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=11361
发表于 2015-11-16 12:21:11 | 显示全部楼层
宫本武藏 发表于 2015-11-16 12:13
天天杀老鼠刷试管的垃圾专业也好意思说自己讲逻辑?垃圾生物专业的索南特色:

http://d2bay.com/forum.p ...

大蛇大七村,

生物索南只好抱头鼠窜了,哈哈哈。
发表于 2015-11-16 13:52:49 | 显示全部楼层
宫本武藏 发表于 2015-11-16 12:21
大蛇大七村,

生物索南只好抱头鼠窜了,哈哈哈。

看到你上串下跳就好笑,现在只好靠刷大字报来刷存了?可惜没人理你。
发表于 2015-11-16 13:54:52 | 显示全部楼层
万得福 发表于 2015-11-16 11:35
我对天朝背景的禁枪派感到深深地悲哀。天朝的洗脑本事真的不是盖的--- 洗到一个程度就是只要持枪就是犯罪 ...

在恐怖分子打来之前,良民的内部矛盾早就先把自己全打死了。一脑子浆糊的人想不到这点。脑子只有一根筋的单向思维,要让他考虑“利”和“弊”两面,他脑子不够用。
发表于 2015-11-16 15:23:28 | 显示全部楼层
kaleege 发表于 2015-11-16 13:52
看到你上串下跳就好笑,现在只好靠刷大字报来刷存了?可惜没人理你。

弱智!你在理我,你不是人?生物垃圾专业的索男又暴露智商了。
发表于 2015-11-16 16:30:43 | 显示全部楼层
宫本武藏 发表于 2015-11-16 15:23
弱智!你在理我,你不是人?生物垃圾专业的索男又暴露智商了。

哈哈哈,别给自己脸上贴金了,骂你两句就是理你了?什么叫“没人理你”明白吗?就是你说话跟放屁一样,没人把你的话当回事,nobody gives a shit。
发表于 2015-11-16 17:06:00 | 显示全部楼层
kaleege 发表于 2015-11-16 16:30
哈哈哈,别给自己脸上贴金了,骂你两句就是理你了?什么叫“没人理你”明白吗?就是你说话跟放屁一样,没 ...

弱智!尼玛说到垃圾生物男痛处了,开始撒泼打滚,又开始玩弄文字概念了。

尼玛垃圾生物索南整天拉的都是狗都不要吃的屎。哈哈,继续看垃圾生物男打滚。
 楼主| 发表于 2015-12-8 12:23:56 | 显示全部楼层
法国人用选票说出自己对巴黎屠杀的真实看法(组图)
文章来源: 单向街书店 于 2015-12-08
极右政党民族阵线在法国地方选举领先,自己宣布已经是法国无可争议的第一大党。
  11 月 13 日巴黎大屠杀事后,正能量报道席卷全球,似乎是一次恐怖袭击让全世界的好人都拥抱在了一起。

  我们看到穆斯林和非穆斯林法国人在巴黎街头拥抱,法国人似乎明白,ISIS 想要让法国人放弃自由民主博爱的光荣传统,正确的解决方式是说:偏不!

  可是今天早上法国地方选举的结果出来了,貌似法国人在记者的镜头前与在隐蔽匿名的投票箱里的表现截然相反:玛丽·勒庞和她领导的民族阵线取得了惊人的胜利。

  法国民族阵线党相比 2010 年的地方选举,得票数翻了三倍,获得了 27% - 30% 的法国选民支持(萨科齐的保守党预计得票 27%,而奥朗德总统的社会主义党位居第三只有 23% 的选民支持)。民族阵线之前从来没有领导过任何地方政府,但是在今天的第一轮投票中,它在 13 个地区的 6 个领先。法国选民将在 12 月 13 日进行第二轮也是最终的投票。 
让我们来看一看巴黎屠杀之后,大多数法国人心目中更想看到的政策是什么样?下面的各项政策都来自于民族阵线党的竞选手册:

  1. 缩减移民指标,从每年 20 万到每年 1 万;

  2. 禁止婚姻自动移民权;

  3. 退出欧洲申根国家免签协议;

  4. 就业机会和社保住房优先提供给法国公民;

  5. 增加能容纳 4 万人的监狱;

  6. 全面公投是否重新启动终生监禁和死刑;

  7. 给警察更多权利监听和监视电话与互联网交流;

  8. 重新立法取缔同性婚姻和同性伴侣领养小孩的权利;

  9. 离开欧元区;

  10. 鼓励增强法国核武器能力;

  11. 增加进口税保护法国产业;

  俨然一个女希特勒要上位了,为巴黎祈祷的时候可能现在才到。如果你认为把勒庞和希特勒相比太过了,听听她自己的话吧。今年 5 月在电视节目上,当有人指责她淡化希特勒屠杀犹太人时,她冷静地回复说:“毒气室本来就是战争的一个细节,难不成战争是毒气室的一个细节?”
 楼主| 发表于 2015-12-8 12:27:42 | 显示全部楼层
British, French leaders join world condemnation of Trump's proposed ban on Muslims entering U.S.
By Annie Gowen December 8 at 10:52 AM  
NEW DELHI — Donald Trump’s call for a “total and complete” ban on Muslims entering the United States drew widespread condemnation around the world Tuesday, including from British and French leaders and the U.N. refu­gee agency.

Citizens, politicians and refu­gee officials alike slammed the Republican presidential front-runner’s latest controversial statement, calling it hate speech and a disturbing sign of Islamophobia in a country rattled in recent weeks by large-scale terror attacks in Paris and San Bernardino, Calif.
发表于 2015-12-8 14:41:57 | 显示全部楼层
万得福 发表于 2015-12-8 12:23
法国人用选票说出自己对巴黎屠杀的真实看法(组图)
文章来源: 单向街书店 于 2015-12-08
极右政党民族阵线 ...

恐暴案过后右翼抬头是必然规律,要不是911,小布什能连任?这次恐暴,trump在偷笑:天助我也。
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